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ceiling discussions again." for now, fiscal cliff negotiations have slowed activity. "this is where the market is frustrated by politics. it's a vicious circle." even at a meeting of start-ups, a group some consider below the radar of fiscal cliff negotiations, some entrepreneurs are becoming unusually cautious. "you have to take pause and assess what healthcare and taxes may cost, but we also have an obligation to our investors, so we see the fiscal cliff thing as a temporary roadblock but not something that...it won't stop us from hiring at this moment." one bright spot - according to analysts at mesirow, housing, expecially new housing, in many markets is being driven by investors purchasing homes. another indicator - remodeling. people are putting money into their homes more now. carpeting, appliances, and contract work all spreads the wealth. thank you chuck. still ahead, stocks that make the "must own" list for 2013, right after the break. here is a question a lot of people are asking themselves this time of year - how's your equity portfolio looking? little anxious about maki
in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> tom: that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! >> susie: the job market is proving to be surprisingly resilient. american employers hired 146,000 workers in november, much more than expected. and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%, the lowest level since december of 2008. as erika miller reports, that wasn't the only surprise in today's report. >> reporter: almost no one on wall street saw this good news coming. there was every reason to think hiring would be weak last month. after all, many parts of the east coast are still recovering from devastation caused by superstorm sandy. >> i think the most likely explanation here is sandy's impact was significant but was so short-lived that it didn't extend to the sample period of the employment report which was the week that covered november 12. >> reporter: hiring was also supposed to be weak due to worries about the fiscal cliff. with $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and government spending cuts set to start next yer, why aren't more firms postponing hiring decisions? >> what we're hearing from businesses is that it
. >> congressman, van hollen, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> tom: as fiscal cliff negotiations continued in washington today, stocks on wall street were stuck in neutral. the dow rose 15 points, the nasdaq gained nine, and s&p added a fraction. still, the benchmark s&p 500 index has regained most of the ground it lost after the presidential election. that's as investors may sense an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff is coming soon. suzanne pratt reports. >> reporter: the tree is up on wall and broad, and so is the u.s. stock market. the holiday season typically is a good time for stocks. in fact, since 1950, december has been the best month of the year for the s&p 500 with the index gaining an average of 1.7%. this december is off to a good start, even though the fiscal cliff looms large over trading floors. most investors remain optimistic there will be a deal in washington before santa arrives. but floor broker teddy weisberg isn't sure where all the optimism is coming from. >> it's a real dilemma here because a lot of folks that i talk to, and customers and professionals a
, republican and democrats will handle this jobs report in their fiscal cliff negotiations? >> well, you know, you're right. some folks look at this and say the economy's strong enough. it should be able to digest big tax increases spending cuts. others look at it and say look we still have a very high unemployment rate, a long way to go to get back to full employment. the economy can't tolerate big tax increases and spending cuts. most political debates the reality is in between. we do need to address our fiscal problem so we do need to go through some spending cuts and we also need some tax revenue increases. but we have to phase it in over time, otherwise the economy will choke on that. we can't have too much restraint too quickly. so we have to phase this in, smooth it in to make it palpable for the economy. >> susie: until that happens, there is a lot of anxiety in the labor market. the big fear for many individuals and for investors is that companies are going to start laying off workers. we saw this week that cities have announced 11,000 job cuts, is this the beginning of a trend, mar
.c." >> well, the stock market riding the ups and doups of the fiscal cliff negotiations. roger altman is former treasury official under president clinton. he says he's optimistic that a deal is coming. the question, of course, is when. joining me from new york is roger altman. always nice to have you on the program. let welcome back. >> hi, how are you? >> you think a chance of getting a deal will increase and harry reid says he's pessimistic that had t will get done before christmas. what do you think? >> the financial markets themselves are becoming more optimistic, and i think that's a strong signal. second, i think the atmospherics, and senator reid's statement is just part of that, are suggesting that there's some movement and some progress, and thirdly, i'm particularly impressed with what the business community has been doing. it's really engaged and rolled its sleeves up and got involved in this. you might have seen the statement about an hour ago that the business roundtable released, and the business community wants a solution. they want a balanced solution and increasing to
in the fiscal cliff negotiations how we can actually get a deal done before the deadline. representative chris van hollen, lynn jenkins and javier becerra as well as sore orrin hatch with us. we'll hear from former treasury secretary altman and jeff greenfield. bill? >> stocks are trading off the highs of the day with less than an hour to go. final hour, really from the get-go. optimism about the cliff talks and senator harry reid made some comments this afternoon that put a damper on that real. we've lost about 30 points. in that time. up 74 on the dow at 13,244. the nasdaq is doing well today, up 32 points. more than a 1% gain, although it is off its highs of the day at 3019, and the s&p 500 index is 8 plus points at 1426. the word on the street is because of the fiscal cliff, some investors are actually selling the winners, the winning stocks, and they are holding on to the poor performers, the opposite what have they have been doing the last few years. maria? >> makes a lot of sense given the fact that tax les go higher on capital gains. you want to get out of some of those names. let's fi
analysts jamie dupree will tell us about the two words we are not hearing in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> 7:36. software company founder john mcafee could soon return to the united states. his attorney says a guatemala judge has ruled that mcafee adetention in that country is illegal and he could be released as soon as today. mcafee was detained in guatemala last week after entering the country illegally to avoid police in belize who wanted to question mack afy about the fatal shooting of his neighbor. mca -- mcafee has said he wishes to return to the u.s. so he can live in peace. >>> continuing coverage on the shooting in portland, oregon. here's more. >> reporter: good morning, tori. the mall here is closed at this point while police continue their investigation and what motivated this young man to come in yesterday in a crowded mall, people were christmas shopping. we have video -- video. we can show you aerial as police converged on this location. witnesses describe him wearing a hockey style mask, dark cam mow, body armor as -- dark camo, body armor. witnesses say he walked into
, on the administration side in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> bertha coombs has a "market flash." >> disney's cfo speaking at a ubs media conference saying that e es espn ad revenues slightly ahead of last year, very much a powerhouse when it comes to revenues for disney which this year is the third biggest gainer on the dow jones industrial average. >>> a question for you -- what do the pope, mark zuckerberg and angela merkel all have in common? they are among the voices that matter the most. we'll tell you why coming up in a few moments. >>> a check of the dow jones industrial average, we are off of our best levels of the day but considering the weight that apple is putting on the nasdaq, a lot of people thought that the dow would be negative. we're up 115 points on the trading session and we are above the 13,000 mark. "power lunch" returns in two. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it
between gains and losses today as the fiscal cliff negotiations once again are a focus for investors. right now the dow is up roughly 35 points. a new survey shows plans by small businesses to hire workers fell to their lowest level in three years last month. according to the quarterly wells fargo/gallup small business index survey, 21% of small business owners plan to cut payrolls while only 17% plan to boost hiring. the survey comes just one day ahead of the labor department's big monthly jobs report. sales of homes facing foreclosure jumped 22% in the third quarter outpacing sales of bank-owned homes. the latest data reflects increased efforts by lenders to avoid foreclosing on homes with unpaid mortgages. short sales accounted for 65% of properties in some stage of foreclosure. we continue our "countdown to the closing bell" with liz claman. ♪ liz: see, adam used to -- something's wrong, because he used to say with the woman who, dot, dot, dot, loves the cleveland -- >> i'll go back to that. i'll make fun. i'll have fun with you. [laughter] liz: all right, i'm going to believe
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back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, making multiple media appearances, kle including timothy geithner right here in 25 minutes. >> but would things be done faster if it was done privately? in his latest column, jeff goldfor a compares u.s. budget talks to merger proxy battles. jeff joins us to explain about that. plus, we have bob from jones day who specializes in wall street deal making. jeff, it is ammo on wall street to do things behind closed doors. you don't want word to get out on the negotiations. it gets too messy. >> right. i wouldn't advocate for a lot of people to do what wall street does. one thing you can say is they've helped facilitate thousands of mna deals this year. they've figured something out with these transactions. the deals that are most successful have the better chance of success are the ones that you negotiate behind closed doors, not the ones that turn into hostile battles and spill out into public, which is what we're seeing noup. >> i
on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to support risk assets. you were talking about how the dollar is melting up for the fourth consecutive day. the federal reserve will make a very active effort to continue to support risk assets. whether they're equities or commodities. the metals market had a very positive day, recovering a bit with the damage done last week. risk assets are doing well, but over the fiscal cliff for sure in december. liz: the fed, the fed, the fed. they're not going to do anything, but they might announce some sort of easing that is what we constantly talk about and wonder because that has been the trade. with it had a decent rally, the market up double digits the past year and
. investors waiting to see what comes out of the fiscal cliff negotiations and in europe, a choppy start to the trading day. investors are waiting for the results of greece's bond buyback program occurs. joe has some of the big corporate news and this one is actually a global corporate story. >> hsbc. we're talking about paying $1.9 billion in the money lawnering lapses. a brirchb lender admitting to a breakdown of controls, in a statement announcing a deferred payment. yesterday standard chartered agreed to pay $27 million agreeing that it violates sanctions against iran and two other international companies. >> if you're an international bank and you prael without getting into this kind of trouble? >> no. >> can you actually operate without money laundering? >> i'm just saying, if you're going to be in business in all these types of markets, isn't this going to happen? >> aren't there sxwier countries that would be probably -- that it would stead if you don't want any business tale. >> was there a fascination in this country about whether you want to indict the whole institution or wha
cliff negotiation will this year be any different? we have the head of charity navigator with me now. ken, we were talking during the break, there has been, you've seen increasing contributions to charities this year because of that fiscal cliff. what do you see? >> we've seen some larger charities have seen as much as 7 or 8% increase in donations whereas some of the smaller charities they're still struggling and donations are somewhat level from last year. gerri: you know, people have this on the front of mind. this is traditional time of year you make your contributions and this year more than ever i think people are thinking their dollar will go further because of the possible changes in taxes. what is the one thing you would tell folks this year about chartable giving? what do they need to think about or remember this year? >> they need to remember that even now more than every charities really need their help. there is more of a demand because of unemployment, because of other challenges out there, disasters and storms and so forth. in addition to that, they're already over the
the fiscal cliff negotiations. what you see is what house speaker john boehner said he is hopeful a deal will be reached, but also added the g.o.p. wants the white house to provide details on spending cuts. but in the white house wants the same thing from the g.o.p. but either way that is good enough for the market. we took off and we stayed to the upside. so far neither side has been specific on spending cuts so coming up in just one hour o ony 4:00 p.m. eastern, former treasury secretary paul o'neill says he has easiest way to cut spending. fox business exclusive and in this our whole host of leaders in business talking about what specific they want to see. in terms of individual standouts. apple right now about 2% to the upside. some excitement over the iphone 5. how is this for a order in china. brenda marshall says china unicom has more than 300,000 people on the waiting list. nicole petallides with talk about this earlier, but that is enough to boost the stock. sales in china friday, can you imagine the lines? sec don't airlines is soaring. up nearly 6%. delta says they will buy 49
. >> let me start with what's going on in washington. we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it needs efforts. let's make them short for a better future. i think we should be ready as a corporation, being ready for maybe a year of difficult market, difficult situation in the market because that is a ceiling on our growth in terms of economical growth as to be released. it's really me an investment for the future. >> you're seeing a similar situation in france where we're talking about the possibility of capital gains taxes and dividend taxes going much higher. what will that do to the investor class, to the entrepreneurialism that we're seein
in the fiscal cliff negotiations it would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got to go for the saints. i'm
back. well, there were other developments aside from the fiscal cliff negotiations today. apple today, big loser once again. the stock continues in a free fall. bertha coombs on the latest on apple. >> that fall on apple really affecting the overall market. apple closing at the lows of the day. the concerns, essentially, are fundamental, that they may be losing market share when it comes to ipad, slower iphone sales, but also technical. they're really seeing the stock moving below some support levels here. then also, the financials. that was the other side of this. citi with that announcement they were cutting their costs. today one of the big gainers. that set off a rally in financials. bank of america closing about $10 for the first time in 17 months. >> all right, bertha. thanks so much. hopes running high for pandora media, meanwhile. >> the radio advertising market alone that we're just beginning to scratch the surface of is a $15 billion plus market. we're a leader in mobile, which is set to become another $15 billion plus market. >> we're going to hear more from the radio compa
. that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table. the president indicated he is ready to talk about entitlements, et cetera. the other side said we can cannot raise tax hikes at all. we have to make sure that everything is on the table. if everything is not on the t
boehner has been a good leader during the fiscal cliff negotiations. and then we were joined by bob corker and bob conrad. corker said we need to focus more on entitlements now, and he will not sign any package that doesn't deal with entitlements at this point. conrad said more, not less, should be included in some sort of a big deal. by big deal, he means over $4 trillion. we are now just 20 days away from the fiscal cliff deadline. we continue to bring both sides of the aisle to sit down together. congressman sander levin is a ranking member of the house ways and means committee. and a republican from new jersey, the vice chairman of the house budget committee and a member of the house financial services committee. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> we just sat down with senators conrad and corker. they seem to agree on a lot of areas. one of those areas is they think we need to negotiate up from this point, not down from this point and cut some sort of a deal that is 4 trillion or greater when you add up the tax increases. congressman levin, would you agree with
for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> as fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem. it has a spending problem. under this administration under president obama we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes -- >> those are some of the republican leadership in the house as you can see responding to the white house's response to their counteroffer of a couple days ago as a reminder the president is going to speak to the business roundtable at 10:50 this morning. we think he'll take some questions even as gop leadership is meeting with small businesses as negotiations or lack thereof over the fiscal cliff continue. >> did you see that the nbc white house team is reporting the belief that perhaps the republicans don't have the fight in them anymore to really dig in now on the concessions on the way which is good news if you don't want to go over the fiscal cliff but they are dispelling the real argument for late
the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is not painful until the very end of the year. how this benefits the company. adam: the note dropped 7.7%, the lowest rate since december 2008. that is just a headline. let's get to nicole petallides. the traders are reading a bit into this report. nicole: the first thing they noted when i came in here, a lot of them are talking about the fact that the prior month had been revised lower. the prior month which seemed like they were good news, in fact, were not as good as they seemed. they take these numbers with a grain of salt. the dow, nasdaq and s&p are mixed today. the dow is up about one third of 1%. what is interesting, this will be our third wedding week in a row. they have not been dramatic moves, but last week was pretty slots. jpmorgan and bank of america are some names on the dow that are holding on pretty nicely. the tech heavy nasdaq down one half of 1%. adam: a lot of people watching that jobs number. thank you very much. dennis: according to today's jobs report, the unemployment rate is down to 7.7%. the lowest level it has been to si
." the road map for the next hour, speaker boehner expected to comment on the fiscal cliff negotiations at any moment. we'll bring you those comments live. >> a lot of fiscal cliff debate may not be about economics. one former adviser to presidential candidate mitt romney gives us his take. >> twitter's answer to insta gram. helping us see the big picture as well. >> let's take a closer look at what we can expect from the fed decision. steve liesman is in washington with the preview. >> are you excited about this, melissa is this. >> of course. >> you should be. there is a substantial change about to take place to the fed's balance sheet today. i'm not hearing much debate in the market. markets overwhelmingly expect the feds to announce today it will replace operation twist with a new program to purchase assets outright. that is, instead of swapping short-term assets for long-term ones, which didn't grow the balance sheet, it will now purchase just those long-term assets. printing money essentially. this will mean explosive growth in the feds' balance sheet. hee are the numbers. first, the fed
on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be shocked at how much lower it is. i know these guys in washington, their paycheck isn't affected. i think when you get your paycheck, you're going to say i hate that. it is going to be that big. it's going to be very -- the takeout is going to be big. amt at the end of the year, you'll write a check when you're supp
in these fiscal cliff negotiations. different than a year and a half ago when the president dealt only with republicans in congress. this time he is taking the case to americans and getting outside of washington, d.c. congressional republicans not so happy that the president is doing this. >> we understand that. paul steinhauser live in washington, thank you. >>> let's talk more about the fiscal cliff. we have the washington correspondent for the new yorker and cnn contributor ryan lizza with us. john boehner and the president in a room, just the two of them. good idea? >> i think it is a good idea. >> if you look at the accounts of the negotiations of 2011 when you had boehner, mcconnell, nancy pelosi all in one ba bainer and the president who were on the phone meeting privately. they could go fwook their constituents and boehner could go to eric cantor and see what kind of deal they could get. but that was the dynamic that came the closest. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through t
he had to say about the progress of the fiscal cliff negotiation. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've kind of gotten out of the kabuki theater and we've gone to, you know, dancing the tango with, you know, those two guys. and any time you start to tango, you got a chance. 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably a 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. and i think that's what's key. >> have indicated a willingness to compromise. what's interesting there is he did say 40%, that's a little better, that the odds are we get something solved and don't go over the cliff. but he's still looking at a 1 in 3 shot that we end up going off the cliff. so it's that part in the middle that's kind of evened out a little bit. >> let's get to our guest host for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations. joining us now for the rest of the show, senator john thune
before investing. >>> good morning. today's top story, a washington standoff continuing. fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be going nowhere. today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
and the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. the dow up 14 points. a settlement has been reached in a sexual assault lawsuit followed by new york hotel maid against former imf chief. the maid claims he attacked her in his room back in may of last year. no details with sediment will remain confident she'll. he did not appear in court today but was recommended by his attorney. hockey fans getting hit and checked. new york canceling games through december 30. they continue with a total of 526 regular-season games that were scheduled for octobe october 11-december 30. that is the latest from the fox news network to be the power to prosper. the ninth receiving the nobel peace prize. fostering peace on a continent ravaged by two devastating world wars. south africa archbishop, demanding that the $1.2 million prize money not be granted this year. the eu should not receive it because it relies on military force to ensure security. the deep economic crisis, europe, of course, suffering from high unemployment. security measures, well, and financial payment has led to what we see here in athens. protests on th
% savings. melissa: as washington is in the middle of this tumultuous fiscal cliff negotiations from a white house looking for more money in the terms of emotions the aid request rebuilding efforts. still willing from super storm sandy here in the northeast. peter barnes in washington with the latest on that effort. speaker according to "the new york times" for white house will be looking for about $50 billion to help rebuild from hurricane sandy. officials testifying declined to comment that number but they did say the white house will be sending in disaster relief bill up to congress by the end of the week. the three hardest hit states: new york, new jersey and connecticut alone are seeking $80 billion in federal help. the administration is teeing up a big request. >> much of the impact of sandy go beyond fema programs. fema's assistance is limited, maximum benefits of individual family could receive is about $31,000 if they have no assurance. others that will not rebuild destroyed or damaged home to did not have insurance. >> woke up to this headline. u.s. denies aid to the maryland storm
and president obama speaking on the phone last night about the fiscal cliff. there still seems to be a freeze in the negotiation. >> there's nothing going on privately that's not going on the publicly. >> they've got to come with some specific revenue. they have refused to do that. >> we need that consensual break through. >> although the president seems obsessed on raising taxes for you. >> that is a bad strategy for america, it's a bad strategy for your businesses and it is not a game that i will play. >> is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the wealthiest 2%. remember it's only 2%. >> with just 25 days to go, the political satandoff could cost the u.s. millions of jobs. professor, good to have you back, good morning. >> good to be here, thanks. >> good read in the journal yesterday from you and if anybody needed to worry about this more, you invoke carter, you're talking about 1980. kind of scenarios if in fact we go over the cliff? >> yes, i can't stop thinking about
. >>> in the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations treasury secretary tim geithner not mincing words in his interview with steve liesman. there was tough talk that came out of this. i was surprised. >> i was, too. couple different interpretations from tim geithner that the white house would go over the cliff unless there's a tax hike on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. here's the quote people are talking about. i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxing on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest, remember it's only 2%. >> on the one hand senator orin hatch called "one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements" he's heard in some time. he says it will put jobs and people's paychecks and retirement at risk. what geithner was state the administration's existing position but just in harsher and clearer terms.
and getting that. >> it's a statement. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. also on the radar this morning, after president obama and house speaker john boehner both were tight-lipped how the negotiations went. the co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, he was asked about the chances of striking a deal to avoid the cliff. >> it's probably more like a 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> be sure to tune in tomorrow for the fiscal cliff coverage live from washington. mission critical, rise above d.c., all day long. becky quick, jim cramer, maria bartiromo holding their feet to the fire about where they stand on the fiscal cliff and how they'll do their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal. now, there are some bowles comments. 40%, yeah, but the odds are much better. they're still 35% chance
, resolving the negotiations so we don't go to the fiscal cliff, the real issue is everybody's got to participate. it's got to be a balanced approach. last monday -- well, earlier this week, 130 ceos in the aerospace defense industry sent a letter to the president saying we're urging a bipart son approach to this. it's got to be balanced. nobody is saying that defense isn't going to share in that. right now, sequestration, $600 billion, that's not a fair share. >> can i phrase this a different way? will we still be safe? will we still have good national security if there are defense cuts? >> i think secretary panetta has already addressed his concerns that if, you know, we have this sequestration where you have $600 billion in cuts that take place on january 1st and go into effect, that's going to have a significant risk on our national security. >> hourward, go ahead. >> i have to object to this sort of thing. every cabinet officer is going to want their area exempted. the fact of the matter is that everybody has to participate. this is, in fact, a bipartisan agreement. this was a
issues around the fiscal cliff. we think it is really important that they get something done because, obviously, if tax rates go up on middle-class americans come next month, it will be bad for those middle-class americans, it is will be bad for our states, and we're concerned about both the fiscal side and the economic growth side. >> susie: so talk to us a little bit about what kind of deal you would like to see. what were you proposing to the president? >> let's put it this way, if money is just shifted from the federal government to the states, that's not really saving anything. and the president understands that. we think it is really important. recognizing if there are cuts in funds, there ought to be a corresponding reduction in some of the requirements that are put on the states. so we really, as much as anything else, wanted to make sure that our voices are heard and that as decisions are made, whether it is about taxes, whether it is about spending cuts, that they be done equitably and with our input. >> susie: your state is headquarters to many large american companies. an
the first quarter of 2013 if the negotiations get postponed temporarily. everybody debated the fiscal cliff as if it's an appropriations bill. really it's fiscal tightening. you have to ask yourself what's going to offset? policy makers from washington can get it wrong and tighten too much. the economy looks -- >> are they likely to tighten too much? is that palatable to do now? >> all the signals -- the debate is occurring in the public arena right now. looks like pure politics. we haven't seen a sound compromise solution yet be put on the table. but then again there's weeks to go. so you have to wait and see. >> we want to make some regards on deal or no deal. what would you advise we do right now? >> i can tell you the trend of what we're seeing here. it smells like a santa claus rally. i wouldn't be surprised to see this thing spike maybe 50 more points higher on the s&p. you know, one thing that might upset that would be if the fed came up with some sort of surprise they're going to stop printing money for all the bonds they're repurchasing. but i don't think that's going to happen. so
, and ten year treasury down to 1.59%. no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to
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